[SlugLUG] Debian As A Server

[Rohan Sheth]

I used to use Gentoo on my server and on my laptop until I figured that
packages seemed broken more often than not and compiling things from
source took an amazing amount of time with little increase in speed. 
While the flexibility it interesting (with USE flags), I figured that I
usually just wanted EVERYTHING installed when installing certain
packages.  I did not know a Gentoo-hardened existed and am currently
researching it.  It might be interesting to install it onto a test
machine and see its stability.  Thanks very much for the suggestion...I
am quite interested!

--Rohan 


Erich Blume wrote:
> While we're throwing out distro names - I recommend Gentoo. The x86 arc with
> the "hardened" use flag provides a very good server environment, and you'll
> still be able to unmask unstable packages on a per-package basis. I've heard
> a lot of good things about using Gentoo for a server, and it's never done me
> wrong for my small apache/mysql/php needs - even though I'm using "~amd64",
> the entirely unstable x86_64 branch.
>
> -Erich
>
> On 6/11/06 2:19 PM, "Rohan Sheth" <rohan at rohan.ws> wrote:
>
>   
>> So you would recommend unstable over stable, right?  I'll try to do a
>> little more research into where bug fixes end up and probably make a
>> decision based on that and what other people say.  But you bring up an
>> excellent point that I didn't think of before.
>>
>> --Rohan
>>
>> Eric Carter wrote:
>>     
>>> If I recall correctly, testing isn't going to be a good choice for what
>>> you're looking for. While it is slightly more stable than unstable, it's
>>> not supported by the security team. And since packages sit in testing
>>> for longer than they sit in unstable that means the stable version will
>>> be patched, the unstable version will have the new version (presumably
>>> including the security fix) and you'll still be stuck with the unpatched
>>> version in testing.
>>>
>>> EC
>>>
>>> Rohan Sheth wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Hiya, I know some of you guys are busy with finals and whatnot, so
>>>> answer this question whenever you get a chance...
>>>>
>>>> I have been thinking about buying a new dell poweredge server but I
>>>> can't decide what to run on it.  The server's main purpose will be web
>>>> serving (mysql/httpd/etc) and if that was the only thing it did, I would
>>>> be running Debian Stable on it.  However, it will also act as a
>>>> thin-client server meaning that it will run all the applications that
>>>> users on the network use.  Therefore, debian stable is a bit outdated
>>>> for it, considering most users like running relatively recent software.
>>>> Therefore, I have been having trouble deciding between debian unstable
>>>> and testing.  I realize that unstable is the best choice in terms of
>>>> recent version releases, but as this is also a web-server I need
>>>> something that is relatively secure and "stable."  I am strongly
>>>> considering Debian Testing because of the reasons listed above, but I
>>>> would love additional opinions.  While some of you may recommend
>>>> completely separate distribution of Linux (which is fine), I prefer
>>>> Debian because of its steadfast history of stability and its rampant
>>>> recognition.  What should I use?
>>>>
>>>> --Rohan
>>>>
>>>>
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